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FILE - Moderator Chris Wallace of Fox News speaks as President Donald Trump and Democratic presidential candidate former Vice President Joe Biden participate in the first presidential debate in Cleveland on Sept. 29, 2020. Trump's tactic of constantly interrupting his opponent made the debate an unwatchable mess for 73 million viewers, and polls showed it backfired on him. Moderator Chris Wallace had little chance. This raised the stakes for later candidate forums, where NBC's Savannah Guthrie and Kristen Welker bolstered their reputations with sharp, in-control performances. (Olivier Douliery/Pool via AP, File)